Debating 996TT or 997

[laura]

I've driven both and can't make up my mind. I love the whoosh of the 996TT, but I love the interior/warranty of the 997. Of course ideally I could afford a 997TT, but that is not realistic.

I am leaning toward a 996TT, but am a little worried about maintenance costs, which would be solved by a 997 with a warranty.

Any opinions?

Thanks,
Laura

[87turbolook911]

Please share how you plan to use the car...track, street, autocross, etc.

It'll influence our suggestions.

[TD in DC]

How do you intend to use the car?

Why are you buying one in the first place?

[Jazzbass]

I've driven both and can't make up my mind. I love the whoosh of the 996TT, but I love the interior/warranty of the 997. Of course ideally I could afford a 997TT, but that is not realistic.

I am leaning toward a 996TT, but am a little worried about maintenance costs, which would be solved by a 997 with a warranty.

Any opinions?

Thanks,
Laura
Agree with the others on needing more info. But I'll say this now - buy a 997 and learn to drive it properly (<cough>DEs</cough>), and you'll outrun most 996TTs on the street.

[realroadrage]

I vote for the 997 (Carrera S model) without need for additional information.

[HoodPin]

Another vote for the 997. The TT is certainly a fun car, but tough to exploit under normal circumstances. 997 can be plenty fun & fast, will likely be easier towards helping you become a good, smooth driver, will work very well at DE's and Autox's, and probably me easier and less $ to maintain in the long run. After several years in a 997 you may find you've finally peaked its capabilities; that would be a better time to trade up to a TT. YMMV. :)

[rs911t]

The old cliche "buy the newest you can afford" still holds. Porsches really do get better every year. Warranties are a good thing - these are expensive cars to repair. Without knowing the year/mileage on the TT, I'd be wary unless you know its history or are dealing with someone you trust.

I don't think the "how you're going to use it" question is applicable (unless you're already a Potomac red group drover). Anyone starting DE in either car is a looong way from pushing the envelope and PSM in either simply won't allow you to get out of sorts in the lower groups.

The turbo Thang is very cool. The 997s are new, warrantied and very nice cars. Personally, I think the choice is clear .... you need a 997TT :)

[Toby]

One more vote for the 997 if warranty is important to you. Porsches are definitely expensive to fix/maintain.

997's are already plenty fast, even at the track. (you may want to try the 997S also)

And don't forget they have round headlights. (This coming from a Boxster/986 owner...)

[MatP]

997 - just on styling alone. Nevermind that its a better car ;)

[88carrera]

997

[smdubovsky]

Id personally buy a 996TT - I do my own maintenance, the car has already had the bulk of its depreciation paid by someone else, and w/ 4wd would make a super fun daily driver esp. in the winter. Id likely get an aftermarket warranty to cover anything catastrophic. Plus, I happen to like the 996 turbo headlights just as much as the 997 models. But thats me.

If you aren't into DIY or are a first time porsche owner, buy the 997.

SMD

[markwemple]

If I'm right on the engine, I believe the 996tt has a lot of 993 and 964 turbo bits including a 964t block, I'd go w/the tt mainly due to Porsche's latest engine woes. Although I'm a big p-car fan there is no excuse for what's been happening w/ the blocks.

[TD in DC]

If I'm right on the engine, I believe the 996tt has a lot of 993 and 964 turbo bits including a 964t block, I'd go w/the tt mainly due to Porsche's latest engine woes. Although I'm a big p-car fan there is no excuse for what's been happening w/ the blocks.

Yes, the 996 and 997 engines are all time bombs waiting to happen. Make sure you wear safety glasses when you drive them so you don't lose an eye when the inevitable occurs!

[Mackpipes]

Laura,
First, welcome to the board. Second, don't let someone who doesn't understand Porsce 911 motors scare you off. :roll: Porsche has never used an "engine block" format in any of their 911's. It is actually an engine case. When maintained properly, these motors will last a long time. As for reliabilty of both cars, you'll be just fine with either.
As for my choice, since I haven't driven either, is based on asthetics. I like the 997. We'll look forward to meeting you in person at the next Dorkiphus gathering.

[TD in DC]

Laura,
First, welcome to the board. Second, don't let someone who doesn't understand Porsce 911 motors scare you off. :roll: Porsche has never used an "engine block" format in any of their 911's. It is actually an engine case. When maintained properly, these motors will last a long time. As for reliabilty of both cars, you'll be just fine with either.
As for my choice, since I haven't driven either, is based on asthetics. I like the 997. We'll look forward to meeting you in person at the next Dorkiphus gathering.

x2 You can't go wrong with either case pun intended. The 996TT really is an outstanding car, and some like better than the 997TT but the 997 C2S is also an outstanding car. One is AWD and provides a strong basis for extensive modifications. The other is a balanced and refined RWD. Really depends upon why you are buying the car and how you intend to use it.

[APKhaos]

Anyone who thinks the differences between the 996 and 997 models are all about styling has not driven a 997. They are very impressive, especially the 997S.

Laura, these are both great cars but have a very different personalities. Sounds like you are are ready to move on one or the other, so I suggest you go test drive both of them. After a reasonable test drive, your gut will tell you which car suits you best.

The new car warranty is a good deal, but many 996Ts are still under warranty, and some owners bought extended warranty as well. I'm not sure this car is a DIY proposition for many of us, short of fluids/filters/brake pads etc.

Overall, this is a nice dilemma to have. Good hunting, and please let us know what comes home in the bag :twisted:

[Lupin..the..3rd]

x2 on a 997 "S".

355 hp, 3.8 liter, Mmmmmmmmm that's delicious.

[wludavid]

The question becomes, IMO, which is more expensive? Taking the depreciation hit on a new 997, or paying for the inevitable repairs on a 996TT?

When maintained properly, these motors will last a long time. As for reliabilty of both cars, you'll be just fine with either.
Define "long time." My impression has always been that these motors are so performance-oriented (and in general, not daily driven) that they at least tend to need freshening around the 100k point. Are the modern engines better in this regard?

Also, welcome to the board, Laura.

[TD in DC]

I have no idea about the 997, but my understanding is that the 996TT has so much "reserve" engineered into the motor that, with proper maintenance, it should last a long, long time. How long? I don't know for certain, but it is not a weak engine.

Also, I have always thought of the 996TT as the ideal street car as opposed to the ideal track car. IMHO, the 996TT is the last car I would buy for the track (Ryan, do you want to join in here????), but one of the first I would consider for pure street usage. The depreciated 996TTs can be an excellent bargain right now, but you really need to know the history of the car and you need to be up on the value of options. With the modern Porsches, you can nearly double the cost of the car in options alone. With this in mind, despite the fact that two cars have the same price, one might be a bargain while the other is over-priced.

[wludavid]

TD, I was referring to Porsche boxers in general. I certainly don't know enough to discuss specifics! :)

[TD in DC]

TD, I was referring to Porsche boxers in general. I certainly don't know enough to discuss specifics! :)

Well, the case upon which the 996TT motor is based, which includes a true dry sump, is very, very different that the case upon which the 996/997 motors are based, which include so-called "integrated dry sumps." I don't think either is a time bomb, but I could well imagine that that the reliability could be different. Also, the 996TT case is an old and well-established. The 996/997 were new to the 996, so I don't know how much data there is on super high mileage motors. I think many modern P-cars probably have mileage similar to mine (i.e., 2002 with only 25-26K miles).

[Blur80]

I vote for the 997 (Carrera S model) without need for additional information.


Me too!:)

[Mike W]

The new car warranty is a good deal, but many 996Ts are still under warranty, and some owners bought extended warranty as well. I'm not sure this car is a DIY proposition for many of us, short of fluids/filters/brake pads etc.

I'm currently shopping 996's (N/A)... and will get an extended warranty. You should be able to get one too.

I can't really help with your predicament (if only we could all be in such). I like the look and interior of the 997. But TT is super fast.

Engine woes are helped by extended warranty, besides, they are rare on the 01+.

[good hands]

Where is Laura ?

a new 997s sets you back 90k
a good used turbo 65k

If its your first P car and price is not a consideration. 997.

if you are a long time p car owner and its time to move up. 996tt.

[laura]

Thank you all for the warm welcome and all of the opinions. I am not much of a DIYer (except fluids, filters, etc.), so I am looking to have a low maintenance, low modified car (at least for now).

My dad sells cars, and can buy me one at a wholesale auction, so I will not know anything specific (previous owner, maintenance, etc.) about the car beyond year, mileage, condition, and price. My dad checked the auction prices compared to everything on line (including Ebay), and tells me that the auctions hae some screaming great deals.

If anyone has experience with Porsches at auctions, please let me know.

I think it is probably safest to go with the 997, but having driven them both, I was torn. But after reading everyone's comments, I think I will primarily bid on 997s unless there is a 996TT that must be had.

What do I plan on doing with the car? Well, I plan to take the DE class and the autocross class, and see from there. I have had a couple of old Porsches (a '74 911S and a '80 911SC), and loved them both as daily drivers, but I never took a class.

Again, thanks for all the info. I plan to show up at the very first DE and Autocross that I can with my new-to-me 911 (of some variety).

Laura

[Trak Ratt]

Thank you all for the warm welcome and all of the opinions. I am not much of a DIYer (except fluids, filters, etc.), so I am looking to have a low maintenance, low modified car (at least for now)....
What do I plan on doing with the car? Well, I plan to take the DE class and the autocross class, and see from there. I have had a couple of old Porsches (a '74 911S and a '80 911SC), and loved them both as daily drivers, but I never took a class.

Again, thanks for all the info. I plan to show up at the very first DE and Autocross that I can with my new-to-me 911 (of some variety).

Laura Hi again! You should also mention "hanging out" at the last PCAP Tech and that it didn't scare you away!

[HoodPin]

I plan to show up at the very first DE and Autocross that I can with my new-to-me 911 (of some variety).

Laura

FWIW, if Autocrossing interests you, consider attending our Autocross School (on March 25th) even if you don't have the car yet. As long as you have at least a safe-to-drive sedan, you'll learn plenty at the school. We only offer a "school" once each year. Although, there is no pre-requisite to take the school before attending a regular autocross event, you'll have a much easier time learning the fundamentals at the school. You can visit www.pcapotomac.org (http://www.pcapotomac.org) (look for Autocross, under "Activities") for more information. Alternatively, Chesapeake Region is also conducting their autocross school on April 1st IIRC.

Additionally, PCA Potomac is running their High Performance Driving Clinic on April 14th, on the Jefferson Circuit at Summit Point Raceway. Whereas regular DE's are limited to Porsches only, the HPDC is open to most any reasonably capable vehicle (attendee must be a PCA member, associate member, or family of PCA member). HPDC involves a lot of classroom time, so demands on car are less than at a regular DE.

I would seriously consider some of the (upcoming soon!) opportunities, even if you haven't purchased your desired vehicle yet.

[TD in DC]

Based on your description, I would definitely go for the 997S.

[markwemple]

Thanks for the insuls guys and please take the time to explain case shuffling and why 996 engines are so commonly replaced. Oh yeah, wait, I must be mistaken as this info has only come from Porsche dealers and Porsche techs. My bad.

[TD in DC]

Thanks for the insuls guys and please take the time to explain case shuffling and why 996 engines are so commonly replaced. Oh yeah, wait, I must be mistaken as this info has only come from Porsche dealers and Porsche techs. My bad.

You know, you are right. All models other than 996s an 997s are bulletproof. I mean, so long as I buy an older model Porsche, I don't have to worry about, oh, say, chain tensioners, valve guides, oil leaks, transmissions, etc . . . because, "in the good old days," Porsche built everything by hand in the Fatherland with good old fashioned German engineering so they didn't have any issues. I will wear my safety glasses on the way home from work today in my 996 :cool:

[Cliff Claven]

You know, you are right. All models other than 996s an 997s are bulletproof. I mean, so long as I buy an older model Porsche, I don't have to worry about, oh, say, chain tensioners, valve guides, oil leaks, transmissions, etc . . . because, "in the good old days," Porsche built everything by hand in the Fatherland with good old fashioned German engineering so they didn't have any issues. I will wear my safety glasses on the way home from work today in my 996 :cool:

996TT and 997S are both worthy. As TD points out, the notion that they somehow aren't as good as earlier Porsches is absurd. Here is how the world works, and it's a law of nature: as technology evolves, things get better. Newer cars are better than older cars. And by better, I mean something that kicks ass in comparison to other things. The only thing better than a 996 (and I'm talking production vehicles here) is a 997. Unless you subscribe to the theory of reverse evolution, older Porsches cannot be better than the current (new) ones.

[Blur80]

What do I plan on doing with the car? Well, I plan to take the DE class and the autocross class, and see from there. I have had a couple of old Porsches (a '74 911S and a '80 911SC), and loved them both as daily drivers, but I never took a class.
Laura

Laura,

Not many of us 997s out there on the DE events (several 996 GT3s, a few 997 GT3s and lots of older cars). It will be good to have another one on the track.

[Jazzbass]

Thanks for the insuls guys and please take the time to explain case shuffling and why 996 engines are so commonly replaced. Oh yeah, wait, I must be mistaken as this info has only come from Porsche dealers and Porsche techs. My bad.
:? Uh oh. Are you being oppressed again Mark? Poor thing.

[TD in DC]

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6470 (http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=6470)

[markwemple]

TD the problem w/ what I read is many there believe the rms is just and rms replace. What I've been advised is that the crank is walking due to the lack of rigidity in the case and poor materials in comparison to the older cases. (Like the one guy said of using a 964 case for the turbo) We'll have to see how these do over the next 1-2-300k but I doubt there will be the SC/Carrera rep at the end.

And no Chris, I'm very used to this by now. After all I don't know a think about p-cars, do I.

[TD in DC]

TD the problem w/ what I read is many there believe the rms is just and rms replace. What I've been advised is that the crank is walking due to the lack of rigidity in the case and poor materials in comparison to the older cases. (Like the one guy said of using a 964 case for the turbo) We'll have to see how these do over the next 1-2-300k but I doubt there will be the SC/Carrera rep at the end.

And no Chris, I'm very used to this by now. After all I don't know a think about p-cars, do I.

There are many potential causes for RMS leaking, including: (1) bad seal; (2) bad installation of the seal; (3) seepage around RMS from lack of use; and (4) defective case. It could be any one of those causes or a combination of them all. The latest RMS apparently is very robust, and the shops now have lots of experience in how to install them. The RMS mostly is a very minor oil leak. Sure, there are failures (most of which I understand have nothing to do with the RMS itself), and there are more failures from an overall standpoint than there have been in past models, but they also produced far, far more 996s than they have past models, so it is not really a fair comparison.

I know plenty of 996s that never have engine problems. I also know that a crate motor new from Porsche costs less than it would cost someone to rebuild any other Porsche motor. The sky is not falling . . . no matter how many non-996 owners seem to keep saying it is. Read the article I posted a link too. The motor are also, in some ways, far stronger than previous Porsche motors. In fact, the article says exactly the opposite of what you are claiming.

[Dr K]

I can't believe that Laura is buying a 997S or 996TT and none of you have asked if she's married? You know we're all in love with any woman who loves Porsches as much as we do!

Laurea, we look forward to seeing you at the track... :p

Peter

[wludavid]

Ok, I'll go. Hey look guys! A girl!! http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/naughty.gif

[racer]

It was my (false?) impression that 996 TT prices have dropped below 997S prices, for the most part. Sure you would be getting an "older" car, with potentially higher maintenance costs, but, a 997S is NOT a twin turbo.

I've had opportunity to instruct a student with a 996TT with the X51 (enhanced HP) and X73 (sport suspension) packages at Watkins Glen and was amazed how capable the car is. I wasn't sure I would like a student pulling 140+ down the back straight, but there we were, with no drama as we hit the massive brakes and went thru the bus stop. Such an amazing car!

That said, I haven't driven a 997 (any version). For autocross, both cars would be in the same class.

[Motomodz]

FWIW, if Autocrossing interests you, consider attending our Autocross School (on March 25th) even if you don't have the car yet. As long as you have at least a safe-to-drive sedan, you'll learn plenty at the school. We only offer a "school" once each year. Although, there is no pre-requisite to take the school before attending a regular autocross event, you'll have a much easier time learning the fundamentals at the school. You can visit www.pcapotomac.org (http://www.pcapotomac.org) (look for Autocross, under "Activities") for more information. Alternatively, Chesapeake Region is also conducting their autocross school on April 1st IIRC.

Additionally, PCA Potomac is running their High Performance Driving Clinic on April 14th, on the Jefferson Circuit at Summit Point Raceway. Whereas regular DE's are limited to Porsches only, the HPDC is open to most any reasonably capable vehicle (attendee must be a PCA member, associate member, or family of PCA member). HPDC involves a lot of classroom time, so demands on car are less than at a regular DE.

I would seriously consider some of the (upcoming soon!) opportunities, even if you haven't purchased your desired vehicle yet.


Tony P......thanks for the plug for the Chesapeake school.....qucik correction however, the school is actually on March 31st and our first autocross is Sunday, April 1st.

my .02 cents, I would not buy either a 996TT or a 997 at an auction. In my experience, auction cars have stories to tell (if the seller were honest enough to tell the story!).....cars often go to auction because someone could not sell it on their lot....which oftens means that is has had paintwork, accident - flood damage, etc. Laura, if your dad buys cars at auction, I'm sure he is probably pretty good at catching the obvious but, there are some talented guys out there that can take a pretty nasty car and make it look nice....and it often isn't until after the money has excahnged hands that some of the cars stories begin to surface!

FWIW, I've got a nearly new Cayman S with lots of warranty left that I'll sell for a screamin deal!....any takers!? Best of luck on whatever you buy, I'm a little biased but, I say 997S!

[Dr K]

FWIW, I've got a nearly new Cayman S with lots of warranty left that I'll sell for a screamin deal!....any takers!? Best of luck on whatever you buy, I'm a little biased but, I say 997S!Why is it going for a screaming deal? I'll give you $20K cash for it - is that screaming enough? :D

Peter

[Ryan]

I have no idea about the 997, but my understanding is that the 996TT has so much "reserve" engineered into the motor that, with proper maintenance, it should last a long, long time. How long? I don't know for certain, but it is not a weak engine.

Also, I have always thought of the 996TT as the ideal street car as opposed to the ideal track car. IMHO, the 996TT is the last car I would buy for the track (Ryan, do you want to join in here????), but one of the first I would consider for pure street usage. The depreciated 996TTs can be an excellent bargain right now, but you really need to know the history of the car and you need to be up on the value of options. With the modern Porsches, you can nearly double the cost of the car in options alone. With this in mind, despite the fact that two cars have the same price, one might be a bargain while the other is over-priced.

Laura - Having just sold my 996 Turbo cab, all I can say it was an awesome car! Unbelievable power and nice handling. That said, having just moved to a 997 GT3, there is no comparison on the track. The turbo basically drove itself. It felt extremely stable at high speeds and in the turns ... but ... there was little driver "involvement". The turbo did a great job of hiding driver mistakes. Sure you can go fast as hell around the track, but not nearly as much fun as a 997. There is a lot more feedback in the 997. The turbo was a "fat pig" on the track. It felt very heavy in the turns, where as the 997 (GT3) feels extremely nimble.

Also I would never own one out of warranty!!!! The thing could be expen$ive to fix! I got rid of mine right before the warranty ran out. As for RMS, I've owned 3 996 Variants and 2 out of 3 had the RMS replaced (luckily under warranty). So if your choice is a 996 Turbo out of warranty and a 997 ... get the 997!

Enjoy whichever you get, and welcome to the world of Dorkiphus

[Ryan]

You know, you are right. All models other than 996s an 997s are bulletproof. I mean, so long as I buy an older model Porsche, I don't have to worry about, oh, say, chain tensioners, valve guides, oil leaks, transmissions, etc . . . because, "in the good old days," Porsche built everything by hand in the Fatherland with good old fashioned German engineering so they didn't have any issues. I will wear my safety glasses on the way home from work today in my 996 :cool:

C'mon TD - From all the oil I see laying the Dorki Ghetto and people under their cars??!! I think the main thing is newer ones are tougher to work on given all the new electronic crap and gizmos for the motor, etc... but that holds true for all newer cars. True, an older porsche is a classic will last "forever" and can be revitalized, while newer ones just seam to become old pieces of crap after time. But if your goal is to drive the hell out it and dump it before the warranty runs out....

Plus WE get more than 90hp:D

Peace

[laura]

Thanks for all of the information. I have placed a bid on a local 997 Targa. I am not sure if I am going to get it, the seller is "running through the numbers."

Also, I will be signing up for the Autocross class, so hopefully I will meet you all there with a new 997 (or possibly 996 or 996TT), or maybe my sedan (hopefully not).

[laura]

So I couldn't get the 997 targa - the party wouldn't negotiate. But for the price I offered (60k) I can get:

2003 PORSCHE 911 GT2
Ext Color: Blue
Mileage: 47,142 mi
Color Desc: Blue
Engine: 6 Cylinder Turbo
Prior Paint: No
Fuel Used: Gasoline
Top Type: n/a
Transmission: 6 Speed Manual
Int. Color: Tan
Drive Train: All wheel drive
Int Type: n/a

Body Style: Coupe
Stereo: Unavailable
Frame Damage:No
Airbags: n/a
Trim Level: GT2
Title Status:n/a
Doors: Unknown

What do you all think? Any opinions? Or I can offer 1-2k more and get the 997 targa.

Thanks again,
Laura

[Rick V]

As much as I like to spend other peoples money. This is too rich for my blood. If you realy want the 997, and you are talking numbers in the 60's, whats another grand or 2? (other than a car for me........I mean the grand or 2)

[BillJ]

GT2 is one fickle beast from what I hear. You sure you want that much animal? Also, not confident what the longevity on the GT2 is in terms of motor life (especially nearing 50k on a street legal race car). Are they in a high state of tune when they leave the factory? 1-2k more sounds like chump change when you are offering 60. If that little amount is keeping you from your ideal car - just get it.

[Mike W]

GT2 or 3 is probably a bit much car for one's first Porsche. Driving one is not like driving a 996/7 (from what I hear).

I'd stick with regular 996/7's. Especially if you are going to use it anything more than 50% on the street.

[Trak Ratt]

GT2 or 3 is probably a bit much car for one's first Porsche. Driving one is not like driving a 996/7 (from what I hear).

I'd stick with regular 996/7's. Especially if you are going to use it anything more than 50% on the street.Not her first Mike, but a big step up from an SC ;)

[cmartin]

Are you sure about the GT2? If so, buy it and sell at market price and double your $$.

[racer]

I am shocked you can find a GT2 for only $60K. Salvage title? ;) Seriously though, even with the higher mileage, it should be a 80K car. mmm 456 hp to the rear wheels only! Good times :)

[wludavid]

I am shocked you can find a GT2 for only $60K. Salvage title? ;) Seriously though, even with the higher mileage, it should be a 80K car. mmm 456 hp to the rear wheels only! Good times :)
I am no porsche expert, but the info she posted stated that it was GT2 with AWD. Maybe I'm missing something.

[laura]

Sorry about the misinformation. I looked on the photos and the website, and the rear hood of the car says "turbo," rather than gt. I guess the dealership put the wrong information.

Thanks for noticing.

Laura

[laura]

After much deliberation (and very little negotiation), I bought a 996 TT. Turns out I could not get a 997 in my budget, but I could get a 996TT! Even the 2005 Targa ended up being a 996, and that was the only one close to my budget.

Thank you everyone for your sage advice. Ultimately I went with the one that fit within my budget, which I guess was always the point.

Thanks again,
Laura

[Manny Alban]

I instructed a student in a 996TT at VIR this past weekend. I was very impressed. Not so much with the power, as it was pouring down rain, but rather the awd and stability management systems. The student would punch the throttle coming out of oak tree and the car wouldn't even twitch. We could go down the straight at over 125mph and it tracked really well.

[Rick V]

And the pics are where? Don't tease.

[laura]

I hope this works... I haven't posted pictures to here before.

Of course I haven't seen the car in real life yet, but the service advisor at the porsche dealership that did the ppi (not the ones I am buying from) was gushing about it!

Now I have to go pick it up so I can go to the autocross school this weekend!

Woo hoo!!!

[Rick V]

Sweet, don't forget to wear your seatbelt and hold on.

[laura]

After flying down to Atlanta for the 996TT, I found that I really do not like sport shifters (the dealer also did not warn me about this added "feature"). So being stuck in Atlanta (bought a one way ticket), I decided on getting a 997.

This is where it gets interesting - negotiated a price on a 2005 997, but had to wait a day for the 997 to get new tires and get a ppi. In the meantime, I called a bunch of people who listed their cars in the newspaper, and found a 997S. The owner wanted far more money, but since I had a cashiers check in hand and told him the deal would be done right now, he came all the way down to my price!!!!!!! :)

So I am now the owner of bright yellow 997S!!! Woo hoo!!! Totally love it!!!

Thank you all for your advice.
Laura

[wludavid]

Pics please! Congrats on the new car... :cool:

[laura]

I think they are attached... at worst, here's the link:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=213752516&dealer_id=59063475&car_year=2005&num_records=100&model=911&make2=&start_year=2005&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&search_type=both&distance=0&make=POR&color=&min_price=1000&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=22180&advanced=y&end_year=2005&transmission=Manual&doors=&max_price=90000&cardist=501

[986SChris]

Great purchase! Congrats!

[Rick V]

Wow! you got all of that one.................home run!

[John Clay]

Cool deal.

See you tomorrow.

[VaSteve]

Purty

[87turbolook911]

Congrats! Great looking car...like the color and rims.

[Dr K]

I am SO jealous! Beautiful car.

Peter

[edevinney]

Beautiful car and excellent negotiating!

I got my 993 from a friend who bought a 997S. That's a hell of a car, enjoy

[Mike W]

Very nice.... I'll wave if I see you in Vienna.

[Rob in VA]

After flying down to Atlanta for the 996TT, I found that I really do not like sport shifters (the dealer also did not warn me about this added "feature"). So being stuck in Atlanta (bought a one way ticket), I decided on getting a 997.

This is where it gets interesting - negotiated a price on a 2005 997, but had to wait a day for the 997 to get new tires and get a ppi. In the meantime, I called a bunch of people who listed their cars in the newspaper, and found a 997S. The owner wanted far more money, but since I had a cashiers check in hand and told him the deal would be done right now, he came all the way down to my price!!!!!!! :)

So I am now the owner of bright yellow 997S!!! Woo hoo!!! Totally love it!!!

Thank you all for your advice.
Laura
Wow, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Nice looking car. Congratulations.

[Ryan]

Wow, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Nice looking car. Congratulations.

Your favorite color

[Rob in VA]

Your favorite color
Yup. Too bad it's not a boxster though. :)

[tbernard]

Nice looking car, must have been a fun drive home :D

[laura]

Great time at the Autocross class! And thanks for the picture Tony!

:D

[HoodPin]

Thanks for attending the Autocross School! Especially since you were in Atlanta the day before! You clearly earned the award for "Most Determined Autocross Student"! :D

[Rob in VA]

Great time at the Autocross class! And thanks for the picture Tony!

:D
It looks like you're enjoying your new car. :)

[993bug]

Great time at the Autocross class! And thanks for the picture Tony!

:D

Nice wheels!

[arob]

Great looking car! Congrats!

[racer]

Great time at the Autocross class! And thanks for the picture Tony!

:D


I rode in that car.. mmm 997. Congrats!